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All Wants Are Not Created Equal

So, I’m usually not a big fan of dichotomies.  When it comes to black & white, I’m all sorts of shades of grey–maybe with a splash of red–and I’m happy with that.  It’s flexible.  It allows me to grow.  It allows me the benefit of perspective.  It allows me the freedom to be me without having to box myself into arbitrary categories.

I’m not a definitive anything, but rather, a broad everything, and the wide different types of friends I have reflect that.  This is also an advantage when it comes to dating–sarcastic guys, soulful guys, athletic guys, artistic guys . . . a prime example of why it’s not good to pigeon-hole oneself.

That said, let me go right ahead and contradict everything I just said.  In life, there is one distinct dichotomy that plainly exists:

STUFF YOU WANT TO DO

vs

STUFF YOU DON’T WANT TO DO

When it comes to this, the only grey area that exists is in the form of doubts.  Uncertainties.  Insecurities.  The cursed what-ifs.  Yet beyond those anxieties, it’s actually entirely possible to determine what it is you want, versus what you don’t.  Let’s be real for a second–if you’re honest enough with yourself, identifying what you want isn’t that difficult of a task.  That’s not the real issue.  What is difficult, however, comes not in determining what you want, but rather, in determining what you want most, when one thing you desire conflicts with another thing you desire.  It’s a simple matter of logistics.

This is when priorities come into play.  I’m not going to drone on about priorities and planning and values and all that happy horseshit, but I am going to outline how I prioritize my wants–particularly when it comes to big, life-changing decisions.  Maybe this will be useful to you, too.

So, let’s say you’ve got a laundry list of stuff that you want to do, which is where we’re going to focus our attention.  Forget about stuff you don’t want to do–if you don’t want to do it, I don’t think you should, and it’s as simple as that.

I tend to take a strong stance on that, which can prompt debate among those that are staunchly adamant about honoring obligations and things of that sort, but to me, most obligations are nothing more than a form of manipulative guilt and, man can that get messy.  I prefer to act based on what type of impact my action will have, rather than merely acting because some unspoken rule dictates that I’m “suppose to.”

So, your laundry list of stuff that you want to do.  Have you got it in mind?  Is it to start living more unconventionally? Is it to make a million bucks?  To travel the world?  To learn a new language?  To climb Mount Everest?  To finally bake something without burning it?  To wear a pink tie without feeling like a girl?  To lose 20 pounds?  To save enough money to buy a new car?  To retire early?  To become a doctor?  To have a family?  To become an international makeout bandit?  (Gee, I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head with that goal.  Wink.)

Whatever your wants may be, take each one and try to put it one of the following categories:

Stuff you want to do because you genuinely want to do it.  (e.g.  You’d do it for no other reason than to derive pleasure out of it)

Stuff you want to do because it’ll yield a favorable reward/outcome/financial gain. (e.g.  You do it for the money, baby)

Stuff you want to do in order to avoid an internal conflict/consequence. (e.g. You do it so you don’t feel guilty later.)

Stuff you want to do in order to avoid an external conflict/consequence. (e.g. You do it so you don’t have an argument with significant other/parents)

Got your wants filed appropriately?  Good.  Now, for the big, giant, top-secret formula for prioritizing.  This is some really complicated math, so lookout.  Ready?

Scrape everything except for the first category, and make those your damn priorities.  That’s an order.  This is one life you get–there’s no redos–so you better be enjoying it.  If you’re not, what’s the point?

If, however, you’re looking for a more scientific reason on why you should be paying the most attention to the first category, it’s because it’s the only type of want that’s based on intrinsic motivation–the rest are all extrinsic motivators.  Intrinsic motivation comes from rewards that are inherent to the activity.  Extrinsic motivation comes from rewards from outside sources.  It might be tempting to consider the third category–stuff you want to do to avoid internal conflict–as an intrinsic motivator, but essentially since most feelings like guilt are based on social constructs (society defines for you what you should feel guilty about, and you internalize it and then feel those feelings when it’s been dictated that you should), then that’s actually an extrinsic factor.

So what’s the big deal about intrinsic versus extrinsic?  Well, research shows that over time, extrinsic motivators undermine intrinsic ones.  Therefore, the more you rely on extrinsic factors for motivation, the less and less you value doing something purely for the inherent pleasure involved.  And the less you value doing something purely for the inherent pleasure involved, the less you’re likely to do it.  And the less you likely to do it, the less pleasure you’ll have.  And the less pleasure you have?  Well, do I really need to keep spelling this out?

You don’t want life to become based on a series of meaningless, arbitrarily defined benchmarks, and nothing that truly inspires you or makes you get all giddy inside.  Point blank.  So while it’s easy enough to say, “Go do what it is that you want in life,” the caveat is that it’s crucial to evaluate the purposes behind your choices in order to best determine what YOU ACTUALLY WANT, versus what you’re obligating yourself to want.  Indeed, there is a difference and, indeed, it’s an important one.

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  • http://twitter.com/alisaan Aleksandra Stalmach

    On wants: As a friend of mine once put it, if the answer isn't “Hells Yes” then it's “Hells No”.  It's that simple.  I think as a society we build things up and make things way more complex then it really is. ;) Sure there are things we should be doing because it's financially responsible or society tells us that's how we should do things (get a house, get married, have kids, work 9-5, etc etc etc) but that's not how we as humans function.  What is good for one is not good for all.

    So do what you want…what you really really want (oh no, Spice Girls flashbacks!) and don't worry about whether it's like Joe Schmoe neighbour or Auntie Alice.  Do what's right for you and make that a priority.  Then take steps to get there…you'll find all that little stuff (saying no politely, scheduling) will fall into place. :)

    • TMFproject

      @Aleksandra
      SPICE GIRLS!  Like the thoughts you presented here.  I think one of the key things you said was “take steps to get there.”  I feel like this is the one area in which most of us slack off on.  We get big ideas, big visions….but without action steps, they'll just remain ideas and visions.  Thanks for the comment, girlfriend!

  • http://earlyretirementextreme.com/ Early Retirement Extreme

    It would be an exceedingly lucky outcome if all wants/goals can be fulfilled internally without any connection to the external/objective/real world. Often and I would say mostly, such a solution does not exist and so one has to reach a compromise which usually involves doing something one does not want to do something one does want. The “does not want” category can not be easily cut away because it is mostly quite interdependent with the “want” category.

    • TMFproject

      @earlyretirementextreme

      I totally get your point, although I don't think I meant to imply that your goals can be fulfilled internally, but rather that the internal/intrinsic goals that one has are the ones that should be made a priority, and then executed as deemed necessary.  It's not a matter of how you get there; it's a matter of where you're headed.  But thank you for stopping by to comment–I completely understand what your perspective was.

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  • MarkPowers

    Hallelujah, girlfriend! It's amazing how many things we spend our time on . . . and how many of those things we really DON'T want to be doing. I'm hate hearing friends say that they “live vicariously” through my world travels and adventures. It's sad that more people don't take the steps to do what they want.

    Thanks for sharing, Ashley- kudos to you!

    • TMFproject

      @MarkPowers –

      So true!  That's precisely why I started this website in the first place.  Friends constantly saying, “I wish I could do what you do.”  Why can't you?  The answer, too often, was not a logistical concern (although even so, something that could be circumvented), but rather a psychological issue that was holding them back.  It's the whole “I can't leave my career for a year because then I'll have a gap on my resume,” for example.  But when it comes down to it, it relies mostly on where your priorities are.  If your priorities are in making as much $ and accumulating as much stuff as possible, then go for it.  If you've got others, though, it might be time to reevaluate.  So…hell yeah, Mark!  Live it up, buddy!  Thanks for dropping by.  :)

  • http://www.EatenByTigers.com/ Sirius

    i'm picking up what you're putting down. though it took me traveling halfway across the world to be around people that i don't know and who don't speak my language, where i could remove myself from my “identity” and external expectations, where i could take my mask off… and really hear myself tell me what i want. so, before sitting down to make those lists, time to do some serious shutting off of outside influences otherwise the list will be skewed

    • TMFproject

      AH!  you've just identified EXACTLY why I promote travel.  I know that not everyone wants to travel, but it's not about travel for travel's sake…it's about travel for the value it will contribute to your life….a value that you can't even possibly understand or appreciate until you've actually done it.  It offers you perspective.  Had I not traveled for the first time in '04, I'd never be the person I am today.  And thank (@*%$!* goodness I am. 

      Really great comment.  Appreciate it!

      • http://www.EatenByTigers.com/ Sirius

        hi,

        due to travel and workload, i've implemented a personal policy to check email no more than twice per day. i should be able to get back to you fairly soon, but if you need my attention immediately, you can reach me here:

        http://awayfind.com/punk

        thank you for understanding my efforts to increase productivity and effectiveness. cheers, and here’s to a life of freedom!

        Mark Eckenrode

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      • http://www.EatenByTigers.com/ Sirius

        hi,

        due to travel and workload, i've implemented a personal policy to check email no more than twice per day. i should be able to get back to you fairly soon, but if you need my attention immediately, you can reach me here:

        http://awayfind.com/punk

        thank you for understanding my efforts to increase productivity and effectiveness. cheers, and here’s to a life of freedom!

        Mark Eckenrode

        P.S. be sure to store this link with my contact information in case of an emergency.

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  • http://www.lifewithoutpants.com Matt Cheuvront

    What you actually want vs. what your obligating yourself to want. Well, that pretty much speaks volumes Ash. Defining between the two is simple, yet can be extremely difficult. Why? Because the mind has a funny way of being a tricky, sneaky bastard, and over time, the one's you've obligated yourself to believe start to blur with the “actual” ones. Thanks for the kick in the ass to stop and think about the actual ones, the true passions, the things in my life that define who I am and what I want to be. Cheers!

    • TMFproject

      BLUR–good word.  I think we've been indoctrinated to believe that it's all the same.  It's almost impossible to tell the two apart, if you aren't consciously trying.  Even if you are consciously trying…

  • simpleinfrance

    As a (recovering) teacher, I find it sad how much of education one spends motivating people extrinsically . . . I can't help but wonder if part of the problem is that what we're teaching is no longer intrinsically rewarding. . .(like the fascinating rules of French pronoun agreement or how to fill irregular verbs into an AP test template)

    • TMFproject

      Thank you so much for leaving this comment.  This is something I could discuss all day and all night.  As you probably know, that's called the Grammar Translation method of language learning and….IT SUCKS.  How many kids have you heard say over and over, “I took 6 years of X, and can't speak a word.”  There's a difference between knowledge and acquisition, and if we want the language to have any meaningful use for our students, then we need to aim toward the latter….it's easy to know how to talk about a language, but another thing to know how to actually speak it.  Great thought, thank you!

      • simpleinfrance

        Yeah, I could talk about it too!  One of the weirdest and most backward parts of French culture is that they are even more grammar/translation than we are.  I was going to try to pass the national exam to become an English teacher, but realized I was going to have to memorize tons of descriptive grammar and inane translations–I have decided to pass.  I just can't jump through any more hoops–especially those ones!  I think I'll just sit out public education and inherit all those poor Frenchies that go through 6-10 years of English only to find they can't actually say anything.  There's a pretty decent market for English conversation teachers for adults here (for smart, educated adults with years of English in school and no speaking ability) .  I guess it's at once a pain in my ass and an opportunity.

        • TMFproject

          Simple in France–

          You know, for some reason that doesn't surprise me.  France seems like a traditional culture, and perhaps their language teaching techniques tend to get stuck in the same pattern.  On the flip side, we tend to let the pendulum swing a little too much here in the U.S., but in our defense, at least we're seeking improvement.  It seems to me that a combination of methods might be best, because I also don't think it's feasible to learn language from an inductive approach where you're just shown examples and are expected to deduce the rules for yourself–lol.  That seems like torture!  In any event, I'd love to hear more about your experience in France.  I have two friends there now working as Language Assistants with the Ministry of Ed, if you've heard of that program.  Let me know if you'd be open to dialoguing via email a bit.  And thanks for the great comments!

  • tom

    I think we do live in a world where people do what they want.. “if it makes you feel good, do it!.” narcicism isn't anything new, and convincing people to be narcistic isn't hard! read the paper, watch the news, more people are doing what they want for pleasure every minute. do we really want to tell all people to do whatever the fuck makes them happy?  i don't think i want that. but then that leads us to saying things like well if you are a not a kid and an “adult that will be able to synthesize this information ” responsibly and the way i do…then you(us people) can do what you want”. but then my problem is that we are saying “do what you want, but you have to fit a certain criteria, status quo? and isn't that doing exactly what this website represents the status quo?

    • TMFproject

      Hey, Tom.  Appreciate you taking the time to contribute to the conversation here.  I definitely see your point, but am going to argue that it's simply being taken out of context.  Obviously, not everything is going to apply to everyone at all ages–that would be greatly overgeneralizing, and, as we all know, I hate absolute truths.  Nothing is absolute. 

      Also, I disagree with your definition of status quo that you cite here, being “a certain criteria.”  To me, the status quo is simply a state that reflects established behavior.  I'm setting out to question that establish behavior.  That's all.  These are all just ideas, and hopefully by getting a conversation started, we can better examine which established behaviors make sense, and which ones are established for alternative agendas. 

      I'm not telling all people to do “whatever the fuck makes them happy.”  Again, taken out of context.  And context is everything.  I'm speaking to a certain population of people that get what this site is about, and are striving toward similar goals.  Those people get it.  They get that a lot of the things that we do that make us miserable are done by choice, and aren't necessarily written in stone.  And that's my point here with this.  If you're not happy doing a job, for example, get a new one.  Life is too short to be a bitter, miserable jerk.  And unfortunately, I see way too many people in that situation. 

      What are your thoughts?

      • tom

        thanks ashley, i like reading your stuff because you are passionate. i love passionate people whether i agree with them or not. it makes for great discussion if done in a respectful way. i get your point completely and i understand you are speaking to a certain population that
        1)get this website and are likeminded striving towards similar goals
        2)that need encouragement to pursue their dreams
        3)held back by fear of what people think of them and what society or other people say.
        these are all good things. i hope someday, with websites like yours and others and education, enlightment and travel, people like you and who follow this website will be the majority and who knows…the status quo.

        • TMFproject

          Agreed–it's the discussion that develops where I think people gain the most value.  It's in dissecting and analyzing the reality that surrounds us, and being conscious in order to best evaluate your options and do what makes sense for you….not for the rest of the world.  But it sounds like you get that. 

          But I definitely wouldn't want a bunch of people like me to become the majority–especially because I really am quite awful at cooking steak, and then the sales for A1 would go through the roof and the world would certainly be missing out.  :p But no, in all seriousness, I don't wish a status quo on any of us, because it implies stagnancy.  And while stagnant can be comfortable, I think that the satisfaction derived from working toward progress trumps comfort any day.  Or…so I like to think.  But then again, who knows?  Maybe I'm just too passionate to the point of naivety.  :)

          Thanks again for the great convo.

  • http://twitter.com/sharp_sparks Jacki Welsh

    Definitely think I'll have to try the ordering priorities.  Though, looking at the four of them, I'm happy to say, most of my decisions are the first category.  Thanks for this post.

    • TMFproject

      YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      I checked out your website, Miss Jacki, and it's apparent that this is the case.  Keep it up, girlfriend!

  • Brian W.

    I'm not altogether with you here.  This may not be contradicting your opinion, but I think you're going to come away with a better time at life if you do suck it up and carry out things you'd rather not be doing, and avoid some things you want.  Some people hate exercise.  If you become sedentary, your giant waist and diabetes will probably leave you more unhappy than if you kept up with a bit of the sweat.  No one likes paying off their debts.  If you don't it's going to make life quite a bit more difficult for you in the future.  Some people really feel like stealing – whether it's a sweater from Express or the corporate coffers.  In that case, I don't think the law even enters into it – you've abandoned the threads that hold together our society, and our fundamentally social species, by damaging your fellow man.  Whether or not you consciously care, by taking those actions you're isolating yourself and probably introducing some discord between your innate social needs and your conscious decision that you don't give a damn. And you can be sure I'd do something that vaguely annoys me for a couple hours if someone paid me a million dollars to do it (and I had no ethical concerns).

    Meanwhile, you and I both know I'm a little more willing to draw solid lines between black and white than you are, but on “stuff you want to do” and “stuff you don't want to do” we find ourselves with reversed roles.  Some activities I like *because* they make me money.  There was a time when I really was passionate about poker, but it was because I used my brains to make money, not just because I used my brains (nb: I consider that fully distinct from doing something unpleasant to make money).  Some activities I kind of like, sometimes – getting drunk, say – but the vast majority of the month, I'd rather be sober.  Some activities I'll do because I've decided they're the mark of a good man.  Now, you can simplify that and say “Ok, so whatever the reason, you wanted to do those, so they're group one out of a possible two.”  But I think it's a bit of a cop out, primarily because it's irresponsible to de-emphasize that doses of unpleasantness are necessary to a well-lived life.

    Rather than doing what you want, right now, without constraint, I say, determine what makes a good person, and be one.  Without that, even a life completely unfettered with inconvenience will turn hollow and listless.  Within that constraint, determine what will lead to you most often to doing what you want, be it now or in the future, and maximize that, rather than just the moment you're currently living.

    There's a good point in this post, and I won't go as far as to say any one part of it is altogether incorrect (or wrong, not as a synonym, but in the moral sense). I imagine dozens of people will end up with happier lives as a result. I just don't like the one time you decided to abandon the gray.

    • TMFproject

      Hey, Bri-

      So, here's my take.

      I was just engaged in a back and forth with a reader (Hey, Tyler!), and the discussion was based on how not everyone can go out and live these remarkable lives because then the world will not have X manual labor job and Y manual labor job, etc.  So, I referred him to Corbett Barr's post on the topic, and ultimately we came to the conclusion that oftentimes, a lot of what I say–or what other people say–gets way overgeneralized and tries to be applied on a macro level, when it's not meant to be applied in that context.  I feel like this relates to what you say here regarding responsibilities in your first paragraph.  I think there's a clear and distinct difference between doing what you “should,” and doing what you have to do, with “should” being a synonym for things you feel obligated to do…aka the things I think should take a backseat in life.  Obviously, unless you want to go to jail, you're going to pay your taxes.  That's not optional.  But living your life in a way that allows you pleasure, inspiration, and purposeful living IS optional..and most people don't choose it.  That's what I'm saying. 

      Furthermore, I think the real cop out here is not your suggested irresponsibility–the real cop out is not doing awesome shit because you're afraid you might fail…which is the reason I suspect that many people hesitate and prefer to stay comfortable.  Its easier, point blank, and there's no concern of potential failure.  If we're talking about cop outs, that's certainly the bigger offense, as opposed to being considered irresponsible for attempting to do things in an non-traditional manner because it makes more sense to you.  I actually find that commendable.

      Thoughts?

      • Brian W.

        I really don't mean to suggest that my concerns with your post are because of their “macro” implications – I'm not concerned with what happens when everyone does it.  It's also not a matter of submitting to outside forces, like in paying taxes.  I don't care about the fact the stealing puts you in jail, I care that it strains your relationship with humanity. 

        My real qualm is that I disagree with doing whatever you want (with or without submission to authority) all the time.  I think you end up with a better-lived life if that's not your primary criteria.  I see it as more important to adhere to a code of ethics that involves respect for the people around you/humanity/the planet, and that necessarily involves inconveniencing yourself at times.  It's things like … being honest specifically when it's going to make things tougher for you.  Maximizing the time you spend doing what you want is critical, but to me, secondary to being A Good Person.  In the end, the clear conscience has the upper hand on maximizing daily glee.

        As for what is the true cop out – I think there's a balance.  Some people live too much in the moment at the expense of the future (drug addicts come to mind as one we could probably agree on), and some people put off living indefinitely, always figuring they'll get around to life in a few years.  Neither one is optimal. 

        Economics may seem like rather boring and abstract topics, but at its core it studies that balance.  They find answers like “People tend to want something today about 10% more than wanting to get it next year” and that's where interest rates come from.  In their pure academic form, they make no judgments about whether it's *better* to save or spend, or what to spend money on, but they provide tools for a person (or family, company, country, etc.) to determine the mix of spending and consumption that gives them the best output for their goals and the resources they'll have over the years.  They also show what happens when you push a slider to the extreme left or right.  And it turns out that the output realized from the “greedy algorithm” (a computer science term devoid of the judgment usually passed by using the word “greedy”) of maximizing the utility of each moment generally does not maximize the utility of the sum of all those moments. 

        I don't remember that post, but you recently buzzed someone saying he's all about personal finance, but sometimes you have to throw caution to the wind.  He deemed $200+ spend at a strip club worthwhile.  More power to him.  But maxxing out a $20000 credit card … he probably wouldn't think so.  The scale tipped somewhere in between, and the important part isn't that he said “fuck it” and spent money, it's that he said “fuck it” at a point that resided on the right side of that balance.  One could draw up the same structure relating to risk of failure vs reward and risk of alienation vs reward.

        So again, I say, live your live, scratch and claw your way to those moments and years that make life worth living, but find your balance.

        • TMFproject

          There seems to be a real big, giant problem with the way I've used the word “wants,” that's getting taken to mean all sorts of things it wasn't intended to.  There's a fundamental difference between deep, soul beckoning wants, and whimsical frivolities.  I suppose I assumed that people would know that I was referring to the former, based on the contents of this site as a whole.  But my words are being dissected and nitpicked, and being reformulated to imply other things that have no bearing on my point. 

          I think the conflation of being guided by desires and being a good person is an erroneous one, as well, but essentially this conversation comes down to a simple matter of linguistic semantics. 

          I suppose I need to be more deliberate with the way I write my posts, but sometimes I can't justify writing even longer posts than I already do, just so there aren't any misunderstandings.  But maybe if there are these types of understandings, its reflective of the quality of writing I'm producing.  Either way, it clearly needs to be addressed.

          • Brian W.

            This sort of conversation is definitely going to be difficult to have on the internets.  We also don't have the advantage of people studying every possible shade of meaning like a philosophy student reading The Republic (maybe when we're dead!).

  • http://thelifething.com/ Jonny

    All wants are not created equal. Correct, mine hold much more weight then everyone elses.

    • TMFproject

      Yes, and especially since we know what type of wants YOU have. 

      Ha, just kidding.

      Sort of.  :)

  • http://www.twitter.com/tylertervooren Tyler Tervooren

    I'm totally down with this concept and think everyone should do it.  However, I think it's worth noting that, as long as you start off with the fact that you're doing things that you actually derive pleasure from, it becomes easier and easier to satisfy those other “wants” in a way that also brings you pleasure.

    No matter how much time you devote to doing things you really enjoy, you'll still need to make money and you'll stil need to help the people in your life that help you When you start with what you enjoy though, more opportunities arise to make a living and help people through the expression of what you truly love.

    Now, a break from my hippy talk and a question about the world we live in:

    The phrase “The world needs ditch diggers too, Billy” comes to mind. Can EVERYONE really do what they want with no regard for all else?

    Some day, I want to build a house.  All the utilities that make that house work are at the street and my house is 25-50 ft. away.  I need someone to dig a ditch. Is there anyone on Earth that believes their purpose in life is to dig a ditch or do I have to encourage someone to break this rule to get my ditch dug?

    If everyone does only what they love, who'll do the stuff no one really wants to that keeps our society in order?  Maybe that's just a narrow minded viewpoint and everyone doing what they love would spur a new way of life where we don't need ditches anymore.

    Good god, I must stop.  [/ramble]

    • TMFproject

      Am I going to have to show up at your doorstep and beat you over the head for being so damn practical?  :p Jeez, Tyler, way to rain on my idealistic parade!  Haha. 

      Just kiddddddding.

      However, the best way to address this is to send you over to a post by Corbett Barr at Free Pursuits, who wrote about this very thing as a follow up post to the Dream Zapper guest post I wrote for him.  There were a lot of the same comments that had come through, so I think you'll find his response particularly relevant:

      http://www.freepursuits.com/yes-the-world-needs…

      Boo-yah, baby!

      • http://www.twitter.com/tylertervooren Tyler Tervooren

        Good ol' Corbett. He always makes great points.  When I think about stuff like this, I always project it to a macro level and picture the rest of the world doing the same as me.  Obviously, that is flawed thinking, as Corbett points out, and being a ditch digger or a trash collector very well may be exactly what someone wants in order to live the type of life that appeals to them.

        Well good, then. I don't have to dig my own ditch.

        • TMFproject

          We totally all do that–the whole, projecting things to a macro level.  But I think he definitely makes a salient point, eh?  People that are following his site and my site are already a certain type of people, I suspect, that are seeking to be more.  Not everyone has that need.  But you totally raised a valid point, and one that needs to be revisited on a regular basis because I imagine that others are thinking the same thing.  So…thanks!  :)

  • http://exilelifestyle.com/ Colin Wright

    You're one of those people who are crazy and smart at the same time.

    I think I'll listen to you.

    • TMFproject

      Probably more crazy than smart, but ironically, that's the one thing that keeps me ahead of the pack.  Well, ahead of the pack in my own little world, that is.  I mean, I'd probably be apt to do something wild like take a bus from Peru to Colombia.  Or…wait a minute….that's already been done.  :)

  • http://benmoreno.net/ Ben Moreno

    Some people may get inspiration from your writing.  Most of the time I don't.  I get a feeling of relief.  I often say to myself, “Thank you!  That is what I am talking about!”.  In other words I get a positive reinforcement because I think very similarly.  I also get inspiration but it is to act more upon these thoughts, like you seem to do more of.

    Oh and one more thing.  International make-out bandit!  Yes!  That is effing hilarious!  I want to meet one!

    • TMFproject

      That's exactly how I felt a year or two ago, when I first started reading Chris Guillebeau.  HOLY SHIT, SOMEONE GETS ME!  And they're writing about it!  Holy shit!  It was an instant light bulb. 

      It's nice to have that reinforcement because it helps to validate our ideas and make them real for us.  And, because of the nature of the relative unconventionality of it all, it's sometimes helpful to have that, huh? 

      P.S.  International Makeout Bandit.  Decided to design a hat on Zazzle that says it, and is currently being printed and on its way to my doorstep!  I'll take a photo with it on once I have it and tweet it up.

      • http://benmoreno.net/ Ben Moreno

        Great!  Now I feel even better :)

        Hahaha!  I can't wait to see that picture.

  • http://twitter.com/Mneiae Caroline L

    I absolutely agree with you. However, I listen to extrinsic motivators because I have no idea what I'm doing with my life at this point.

    • TMFproject

      You must have some sense of what you like to do, no?

      • http://twitter.com/Mneiae Caroline L

        Yes, I know what I like to do.

        I like to help people lose weight and feel better about themselves.

        I like to make children happy, safe, and comfortable.

        I like to learn new things and think about them. I like to come up with solutions to problems I see around me.

        If you were to ask me what I would do if I had a 100 million dollars, I would like to bring clean water to everybody, especially children. My childhood bedtime stories included children dying of diarrhea in Vietnam because of the water. (Okay, that was just one. The real recurring theme was children in distress.) The water issue is something that I would ameliorate for free, as long as I got food and shelter. And when I was seven, I raised money for two wells in Vietnam, so this is actually an issue that I've considered since childhood.

        As far extrinsic motivators go, my parents are a huge influence in my life and I would hate to not meet their expectations. I've been told all my life that when I grow up, I have to get a good, stable job and support all of my family. A lot of pressure to put on a kid.

        • TMFproject

          Correct me if I'm wrong, but to me, it sounds like you have it ALL figured out.

          For the record, I'm really inspired by what you've written here regarding clean water for children.  That's absolutely a topic that doesn't get enough attention, and not one that I've dedicated as much thought to as it deserves.  I'm happy that you brought this up, and want to look into a way to contribute. 

          Also, your parents deserve a round of applause for instilling such concepts in your head at such an early age.  Personally, I think that's fantastic.

          • http://twitter.com/Mneiae Caroline L

            It may sound like I've determined what I'm doing, but I haven't. That's just what I would like to do. And the part of me that is more selfless would happily go off and do that.

            On the other hand, I have a family that continues to try to convince me that I need a six figure starting salary when I get out of school.

            If I could do both together, that would be fantastic.

          • TMFproject

            Man, Caroline.  I've got to be careful in doling out my two cents, but making gigantic life decisions and essentially determining a large chunk of what you'll be doing for 8-10 hours a day for your entire life based on a) What someone else wants and b) For financial gain only….seems like something you'll definitely need to spend some time considering.  You have SUCH AWESOME LIFE GOALS, and dammit…I really hope you get out there and pursue some of them.

          • http://twitter.com/Mneiae Caroline L

            This discussion with you has provoked other discussions about this with my friends and those around me. While I cannot promise you that I will pursue all of these desires, I do recognize that money is not everything (utter blasphemy for a business student).

            Reconciliation between the money and the socially responsible parts of me would probably include creation of a for-profit water purification company, similar to that of TOMS SHOES.

            That's not even half of what I've dreamed of creating, but it's a good starting point. My world is full of bloomabilities. :)

            Thank you.

          • Brian W.

            Caroline – I hope you decide to go with the water purification – and best of luck if you do.  I'm really intrigued by the for-profit/social good hybrids I've seen… like some of the case studies in The Fortune at the Bottom of the Pyramid.  Maybe we should call them not-just-for-profit. I'll be rooting for you.

          • http://twitter.com/Mneiae Caroline L

            For anybody who cares: Today I told my parents that I'm not going to be going into a lucrative career. This followed a lecture on how they just want me to be happy. They were both quietly horrified, but they've basically accepted what's happening, even if they hate it. Thank you for encouraging me to make this leap.

          • TMFproject

            @Caroline

            I'm so, so happy for you, Caroline!  You need to follow your gut, girl.  Because here's the thing–if it turns out that you AREN'T happy doing that after all, you can always (always) get a “lucrative” career down the road.  It's never too late.  Nothing is permanent.  Better to experiement and know, than to regret never finding out.  Thank you so much for sharing this with us.  Keep me posted?

  • shawnacevraini

    Holy Crap! Did I need this post, or what!!?? Were you listening to my thoughts of last week!? Sheesh!

    Seriously, I've been feeling guilty about spending so much time online with “my tribe” in the past month, so I cut back last week. I've been spending a ton of time on building our website for our new biz too, so have felt totally guilty about neglecting my pay job, my family (I even forgot my dad's bday), my house etc. etc ad nauseum.

    But you know what? I TOTALLY love this new direction my life is taking! I love the whole idea of the biz that we are creating. I'm so passionate about it and talking about it so much that I was fretting to my hubby and friends that I'm coming off as annoying!! Worried about being annoying because I'm so passionate about something I LOVE? What the hell is that!!??

    And the fact that I'm learning so much and enjoying “spending time” with my new online friends from all over the world – again, what the hell is wrong with that? It is all moving me forward to getting out of the 9 to 5 crapola, so why should I feel guilty about it? Finding women that I can totally look up to like Ronna Detrick and you and Kelly Diels. That make me think about what it means to be a woman and be passionate. Again, what is so bad about that??????

    It's not what I'm “supposed” to do, but who tells me what I'm supposed to do? No one. Not my husband, not my family, not my real friends. Everyone is sooo supportive of the new me and the new direction of my life. These are self-imposed “restrictions” and “supposed to” and guilt.

    I am going to take your advice and write this out. Maybe that will be enough of a 2X4 to the head to make me stop feeling so damn guilty about DOING WHAT I LOVE!! Life is too short for that! You are so good at reminding me of that! Thank you! You RULE!!!

    • TMFproject

      I'm SO glad that you left this comment!  The thing that sticks out at me most is your statement of, “It's not what I'm 'suppose' to do”–what makes it something that you categorize that way?  Do you mean you feel irresponsible for not slaving away, putting in your “dues,” and doing things in a traditional sense? 

      You know, Shawna, this is going to sound arrogant, but so be it: If you have found a way to live your life, pay your bills and be doing something you enjoy, it makes you SMARTER than the rest of the population who simply chooses to accept mediocre, uninspired existences.  Not frivolous, or silly, or unrealisitic.  SMARTER. 

      I say, rock on.

  • http://www.fearlessendeavors.com/ Nate

    I definitely agree with this, although I'd have to say that determining what you want to do…at least for a lot of people…is extremely difficult.  Some people are so completely trapped with the stories in their head and the identity they have created for themselves that they truly don't know what it is they want.

    This is probably why personal development is such a thriving industry.  So many people don't know what the heck they want and they want someone else to provide them with answers.  Personally, I feel you can get more lost if you go down that road because a lot of times you get caught up in other people's ides of what it mens to lead a meaningful or joyful life instead of looking within and doing some soul searching. 

    I definitely think the last two paragraphs capture the essence of this and that is the most important part.  Not only look at you what you want, but question it.  'Why do I really want this?' You might be surprised at what you find.

    • TMFproject

      You know, I seriously am making this prediction and I'm making it RIGHT NOW so I can lay claims: You, my friend, are somehow, in some way, going to become famous.  Seriously, Nate, you're way more insightful beyond your age, and every single comment that you've left here–as well as on other people's sites–have been nothing short of well-thought out and perceptive.  For that, I want to thank you.  You've contributed so much to the conversation over here since I started. 

      I think we share in common the general belief of questioning WHY across all aspects of our lives–there are some people that might argue that it's done in vain, but from my perspective, I think that in doing so, we inevitably are actively engaging in “personal development” on our own.  It's about being conscious, and using that consciousness to make better decisions that reflect where you want to be…not necessarily where you are. 

      Rock on, Nate dawg.  Thank you, once again, for kicking ass.

  • http://www.blogcastfm.com/ Srinivas Rao

    It's amazing how much we actually do out of guilt and obligation. Although I don't want to pay taxes, that might be one exception to what you've written here :) .  What's interesting is that that average person probably wouldn't prioritize based on what you've outlined here. They are so conditioned by social program and social constructs that to do anything out of the ordinary is uncomfortable. AS I once I said to a friend “Ordinary lives are for ordinary people. Extraordinary lives are for extraordinary people. I was never meant to be ordinary”

    • TMFproject

      That's precisely the point I was getting at.  Things are done more out of guilt and obligation than for the sake of our personal well-being, and there's something fundamentally wrong with that!  And as far as taxes are concerned, that's different since it's a law and we're required to do so–which is a whole other argument in itself.  *sigh*

  • http://www.owlsparks.com/ Carlos Miceli

    I see what you mean, and I don't want to go into semantics, but this advice is dangerous for 95% of young people out there.

    I do stuff “I don't want to do” all the time because learning involves a lot of boring moments. I pay dues to myself, if you will. You would say that I actually want to do those things because of the motivations behind it, and you'd be right. My concern is that a lot of young kids (and by young, I don't mean that young) would understand wants with “enjoying every second of it.” Which is impossible.

    Semantics is where wisdom and immaturity part ways.

    • TMFproject

      You're absolutely right–I don't cater this blog to young kids but have in mind adults that will be able to synthesize this information in the same way that you did. So there–there's my disclaimer to the world.  I'm glad you brought that up.  Good point.

    • http://benmoreno.net/ Ben Moreno

      In response to Carlos.  I get what you are saying, but in reality kids “do what they want”, anyway.  I think Ashley is talking to all the millions of other adults who simply are stuck in the same old pattern of life.  I see it as her trying to help people understand that they really don't need to be so concerned with most of the little rules people follow, religiously, because they feel pressured, etc.

      Or I could be way off. lol

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