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	<title>Comments on: Your Language Is Holding You Hostage (And Why I&#8217;ll Be Flying Obama&#8217;s Private Jet As A Result)</title>
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		<title>By: anthisme</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthisme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate you, you give me insomnia with your thought provoking posts :S&lt;br&gt;haha I don&#039;t really hate you, keep up the good work.&lt;br&gt;Anth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate you, you give me insomnia with your thought provoking posts :S<br />haha I don&#39;t really hate you, keep up the good work.<br />Anth</p>
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		<title>By: TMFproject</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMFproject</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s fantastic!  Good for you.  I&#039;ve been meaning to get to Italy.  Soon!</description>
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		<title>By: Cyndee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyndee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Love it! I&#039;m in Italy living with my Husband and 6 year old Son for 2 years. Since we are learning another language we&#039;re on the right track, huh?!  If we all would learn to talk more straight forward and own up, it would make communicating easier I agree (that&#039;s how I took it anyway).&lt;br&gt;Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Love it! I&#39;m in Italy living with my Husband and 6 year old Son for 2 years. Since we are learning another language we&#39;re on the right track, huh?!  If we all would learn to talk more straight forward and own up, it would make communicating easier I agree (that&#39;s how I took it anyway).<br />Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Yoder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin Yoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashley,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Love the post, but am not sure what you mean when you say that distinctions don&#039;t exist between he and she in the chinese language. 他 &quot;ta&quot; is the character for &quot;he&quot; which refers to males, and 她 &quot;ta&quot; is the character for &quot;she&quot; which refers to females. The radical on the left hand side of each character is different, and there are a whole host of characters that have to do with gender in the language like 姦 - which is three characters for female stacked on top of each other, and means &quot;wicked.&quot; (Some of the characters with negative connotations that have female radicals get lots of laughs in beginner Chinese classes.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;E Prime seems like a very interesting concept. Or should I say: Austin thinks E Prime seems like an interesting concept? haha.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Would love to see pics of you on Obama&#039;s jet any day :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley,</p>
<p>Love the post, but am not sure what you mean when you say that distinctions don&#39;t exist between he and she in the chinese language. 他 &#8220;ta&#8221; is the character for &#8220;he&#8221; which refers to males, and 她 &#8220;ta&#8221; is the character for &#8220;she&#8221; which refers to females. The radical on the left hand side of each character is different, and there are a whole host of characters that have to do with gender in the language like 姦 &#8211; which is three characters for female stacked on top of each other, and means &#8220;wicked.&#8221; (Some of the characters with negative connotations that have female radicals get lots of laughs in beginner Chinese classes.)</p>
<p>E Prime seems like a very interesting concept. Or should I say: Austin thinks E Prime seems like an interesting concept? haha.</p>
<p>Would love to see pics of you on Obama&#39;s jet any day <img src='http://www.themiddlefingerproject.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I know I&#039;m hitting this late, but so many thoughts on this.  I think I&#039;m going to just focus on this comment here for now because I was considering possibilities in languages until I read this comment with the idea that perhaps tonal languages would never be for me.  Why? I&#039;m hearing impaired.  Still worth a try.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyone have any thoughts on sign language? Sign language, even in English-speaking worlds, has taken on their own meanings with words.  There is a whole culture unto sign language.  Sign language, I suppose, is very visual and very contextual.  I grew up with the ESL, which is straight English in which you sign/mime/gesture/act out pretty much every word in decent English structure.  Here&#039;s an example: I&#039;m going to get a drink.  However, ASL is a totally different structure that I have a hard time with because there is no grammar in that!  Using that same example, it goes kind of like this: Drink, me get.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Spoken English is still my very first language.  ESL is definitely a second &quot;language&quot; for me.  I wonder how much perspective will be gained in learning foreign sign language as a bonus to learning to speak foreign language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I know I&#39;m hitting this late, but so many thoughts on this.  I think I&#39;m going to just focus on this comment here for now because I was considering possibilities in languages until I read this comment with the idea that perhaps tonal languages would never be for me.  Why? I&#39;m hearing impaired.  Still worth a try.</p>
<p>Anyone have any thoughts on sign language? Sign language, even in English-speaking worlds, has taken on their own meanings with words.  There is a whole culture unto sign language.  Sign language, I suppose, is very visual and very contextual.  I grew up with the ESL, which is straight English in which you sign/mime/gesture/act out pretty much every word in decent English structure.  Here&#39;s an example: I&#39;m going to get a drink.  However, ASL is a totally different structure that I have a hard time with because there is no grammar in that!  Using that same example, it goes kind of like this: Drink, me get.</p>
<p>Spoken English is still my very first language.  ESL is definitely a second &#8220;language&#8221; for me.  I wonder how much perspective will be gained in learning foreign sign language as a bonus to learning to speak foreign language.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristof Alentijns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristof Alentijns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Killer post! Took me long enough to get through, but definitely worth the brain anguish. I love these types of articles. I&#039;ve definitely noticed that my humor is somewhat different in english than in dutch. And yeah, that&#039;s totally the same as writing an in depth semi psychological article about, I know :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killer post! Took me long enough to get through, but definitely worth the brain anguish. I love these types of articles. I&#39;ve definitely noticed that my humor is somewhat different in english than in dutch. And yeah, that&#39;s totally the same as writing an in depth semi psychological article about, I know <img src='http://www.themiddlefingerproject.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: David Gowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome summary of the S-W hypothesis. It&#039;s great to know that about Chinese... I wonder if that has any bearing on the way I just, find Chinese people quite unusually friendly, or not.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While reading your article, I was constantly thinking of Lojban, which is designed explicitly to address the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis; to be culturally neutral and allow a ridiculously vast array of ideas to be expressed in virtually any combination or style.&lt;br&gt;As an active learner of Lojban, I believe that it has succeeded in that, based on my own and others&#039; evidence: I find it makes recognizing my own and others&#039; limited thought patterns, and thinking in a different way, much easier. In Lojban the problem is always primarily deciding what you mean... once that is established, writing or speaking in a particular style is pretty simple. This *REALLY* helps thinking.. Lojban (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lojban.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.lojban.org&lt;/a&gt;) has been described as &#039;remorselessly precise&#039; probably because of this.  Maybe you would be interested in it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome summary of the S-W hypothesis. It&#39;s great to know that about Chinese&#8230; I wonder if that has any bearing on the way I just, find Chinese people quite unusually friendly, or not.</p>
<p>While reading your article, I was constantly thinking of Lojban, which is designed explicitly to address the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis; to be culturally neutral and allow a ridiculously vast array of ideas to be expressed in virtually any combination or style.<br />As an active learner of Lojban, I believe that it has succeeded in that, based on my own and others&#39; evidence: I find it makes recognizing my own and others&#39; limited thought patterns, and thinking in a different way, much easier. In Lojban the problem is always primarily deciding what you mean&#8230; once that is established, writing or speaking in a particular style is pretty simple. This *REALLY* helps thinking.. Lojban (<a href="http://www.lojban.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.lojban.org</a>) has been described as &#39;remorselessly precise&#39; probably because of this.  Maybe you would be interested in it?</p>
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		<title>By: mskarenau</title>
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		<dc:creator>mskarenau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eeks, I feel like I missed out on your comment here. I&#039;ll reply now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hmm.. I&#039;m going to be careful here about making a broad general statement about how manipulative women can be in China, because I witness it all the time here in North America too. Women saying, &quot;It&#039;s FINE&quot; when it&#039;s actually NOT &quot;fine&quot;, or &quot;do what you like&quot; when you CLEARLY know that she doesn&#039;t want you to make &quot;THAT choice&quot;. You know what I mean? It&#039;s the pretense of freedom, yet at the same time manipulating the guilty conscience to her own gain. Perhaps this happens more in China, because it IS less acceptable for women to speak their minds in China. Sexism is more rampant there than in North America.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, what I&#039;m getting at is, I guess this kind of thing happens everywhere, but probably more so in China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eeks, I feel like I missed out on your comment here. I&#39;ll reply now.</p>
<p>Hmm.. I&#39;m going to be careful here about making a broad general statement about how manipulative women can be in China, because I witness it all the time here in North America too. Women saying, &#8220;It&#39;s FINE&#8221; when it&#39;s actually NOT &#8220;fine&#8221;, or &#8220;do what you like&#8221; when you CLEARLY know that she doesn&#39;t want you to make &#8220;THAT choice&#8221;. You know what I mean? It&#39;s the pretense of freedom, yet at the same time manipulating the guilty conscience to her own gain. Perhaps this happens more in China, because it IS less acceptable for women to speak their minds in China. Sexism is more rampant there than in North America.</p>
<p>Anyway, what I&#39;m getting at is, I guess this kind of thing happens everywhere, but probably more so in China.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never heard of that before. Thanks for teaching me something new! I&#039;ve definitely seen that. I&#039;m in the process of becoming a writing tutor for my university and one category of people who use us often is those who don&#039;t speak &quot;academic&quot; very well. They can get by and talk about their day, but when it comes to papers, it&#039;s a lot more difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve never heard of that before. Thanks for teaching me something new! I&#39;ve definitely seen that. I&#39;m in the process of becoming a writing tutor for my university and one category of people who use us often is those who don&#39;t speak &#8220;academic&#8221; very well. They can get by and talk about their day, but when it comes to papers, it&#39;s a lot more difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: TMFproject</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMFproject</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite possibly the BEST quote ever!!!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I keep hearing of college professors requiring this; I never had any that did so, but man that must&#039;ve been frustrating as a college student.  Haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite possibly the BEST quote ever!!!  </p>
<p>I keep hearing of college professors requiring this; I never had any that did so, but man that must&#39;ve been frustrating as a college student.  Haha.</p>
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		<title>By: TMFproject</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMFproject</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, well then I would certainly be the biggest loud mouth in China that there ever was!  You make a good point about non-verbal language.  I did study once about China being considered a high-context culture, where meaning was highly dependent upon non-verbal language (is it true that many women say yes when they mean no, and the only way to tell the difference is by gauging her nonverbals???), and the U.S. is considered a low-context culture, because we pretty much just say what we mean and are very direct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, well then I would certainly be the biggest loud mouth in China that there ever was!  You make a good point about non-verbal language.  I did study once about China being considered a high-context culture, where meaning was highly dependent upon non-verbal language (is it true that many women say yes when they mean no, and the only way to tell the difference is by gauging her nonverbals???), and the U.S. is considered a low-context culture, because we pretty much just say what we mean and are very direct.</p>
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		<title>By: TMFproject</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMFproject</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fascinating topic to me, and one that is super relevant to my master&#039;s degree.  There are many students who began their schooling in their native country, and then finished in the states--these are called Generation 1.5 learners.  Gen 1.5 learners often have unique difficulties in that they&#039;ve mostly developed their interpersonal communication skills and can talk to anyone on the street, for example, but are severely lacking in their academic language proficiency, because they likely didn&#039;t attain an academic language proficiency in their first language to begin with.  These were the types of students that I worked with, and the majority were from China.  These are also the types of students that often cited a similar issue that you describe--being more Americanized than their parents, and experiencing a real disconnect, and not having any idea what to do about it.  I&#039;ve also read about this in many other contexts--for example, the Middle Eastern parent who has immigrated to the U.S., but doesn&#039;t want to allow their child to dress like an American.  The pressure on that child is immense!  Especially at a developmental age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fascinating topic to me, and one that is super relevant to my master&#39;s degree.  There are many students who began their schooling in their native country, and then finished in the states&#8211;these are called Generation 1.5 learners.  Gen 1.5 learners often have unique difficulties in that they&#39;ve mostly developed their interpersonal communication skills and can talk to anyone on the street, for example, but are severely lacking in their academic language proficiency, because they likely didn&#39;t attain an academic language proficiency in their first language to begin with.  These were the types of students that I worked with, and the majority were from China.  These are also the types of students that often cited a similar issue that you describe&#8211;being more Americanized than their parents, and experiencing a real disconnect, and not having any idea what to do about it.  I&#39;ve also read about this in many other contexts&#8211;for example, the Middle Eastern parent who has immigrated to the U.S., but doesn&#39;t want to allow their child to dress like an American.  The pressure on that child is immense!  Especially at a developmental age.</p>
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		<title>By: TMFproject</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMFproject</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never saw Total Recall, but I&#039;m down with the quote!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think a lot of my views on life have been based on the many things that I&#039;ve read, studied and digested over the years, and in starting The Middle Finger Project, my goal was to help people gain new perspectives and think critically about the life they&#039;re living.  So with that in mind, it only makes sense to include some more &quot;academic&quot; type ideas in here, because they&#039;ve definitely had a great impact on my own mind set.  As always, thanks for the kind words, Matt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never saw Total Recall, but I&#39;m down with the quote!  </p>
<p>I think a lot of my views on life have been based on the many things that I&#39;ve read, studied and digested over the years, and in starting The Middle Finger Project, my goal was to help people gain new perspectives and think critically about the life they&#39;re living.  So with that in mind, it only makes sense to include some more &#8220;academic&#8221; type ideas in here, because they&#39;ve definitely had a great impact on my own mind set.  As always, thanks for the kind words, Matt!</p>
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		<title>By: TMFproject</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMFproject</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never saw Total Recall, but I&#039;m down with the quote!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think a lot of my views on life have been based on the many things that I&#039;ve read, studied and digested over the years, and in starting The Middle Finger Project, my goal was to help people gain new perspectives and think critically about the life they&#039;re living.  So with that in mind, it only makes sense to include some more &quot;academic&quot; type ideas in here, because they&#039;ve definitely had a great impact on my own mind set.  As always, thanks for the kind words, Matt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never saw Total Recall, but I&#39;m down with the quote!  </p>
<p>I think a lot of my views on life have been based on the many things that I&#39;ve read, studied and digested over the years, and in starting The Middle Finger Project, my goal was to help people gain new perspectives and think critically about the life they&#39;re living.  So with that in mind, it only makes sense to include some more &#8220;academic&#8221; type ideas in here, because they&#39;ve definitely had a great impact on my own mind set.  As always, thanks for the kind words, Matt!</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an Asian-American perspective, there&#039;s also a disconnect between who I think I should be and who my parents think I should be. The individual self is not emphasized in my parents&#039; world and a lady never draws attention to herself. On the other hand, I&#039;m an American, which means that I have to have individually awesome accomplishments and gain recognition. There&#039;s a tiny bit of a conflict in my upbringing. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What price would you pay for harmony and getting along? Would you subjugate yourself to your elders, especially the men, to make order of chaos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an Asian-American perspective, there&#39;s also a disconnect between who I think I should be and who my parents think I should be. The individual self is not emphasized in my parents&#39; world and a lady never draws attention to herself. On the other hand, I&#39;m an American, which means that I have to have individually awesome accomplishments and gain recognition. There&#39;s a tiny bit of a conflict in my upbringing. </p>
<p>What price would you pay for harmony and getting along? Would you subjugate yourself to your elders, especially the men, to make order of chaos?</p>
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