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Sometimes, Money DOES Equal Happiness.  Sometimes, Livin’ On a Prayer Gets OLD.

He looks me right in the eyes. Then, he blindsides me with the question.

“So, how much do you charge?”
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My mind races.  So does my heart.
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Ohshitohshitohshit.  How much is too much?  How much is too little?  I don’t want him to think I’m an amateur!  Quick, say something!  Something smooth!

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I meet his eyes.

“Well, what’s your budget look like?” I say, in a way that comes out sounding way more seductive than I mean it to sound.  I might as well have added a “big boy” to the end.

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Idiot. Why did you say that?! And why did you say it LIKE THAT? God I’m such an amateur. He’s totally going to know. It’s so obvious.


I should probably take a minute to interrupt your regular programming to make a special announcement:  This is not a scenario involving leopard print and questionable street corners.

Sorry to disappoint.

Rather, he and I are seated opposite one another at a local Whole Foods, of all places, at four o’clock in the afternoon, arms crossed, eyes locked, engrossed in a (now seductive?!) discussion about copywriting.

My very first copywriting gig, ever.

It was 2006.  I was 22 years old.

I had just quit my first job after college, after having been miserably disenchanted with “the real world” and all that corporate life had to offer.  The nagging, omnipresent thought that I had during all junctures of the day was:  This is it?  This is what I’ve waited my whole life for? It was a heavy disappointment, one that I truly don’t know I’ve ever gotten over.

Right after leaving, I started Ashley Ambirge copywriting on a caffeine high + 24 grueling hours of learning how to set up a (hilariously bad) website. While still at my corporate job, I had worked side-by-side with a marketing consultant to completely revamp my company’s overall marketing & sales strategy during a 12 month period. He also happened to be a copywriter. And he liked beer. We became friends.

I figured that if he could do it, I certainly could. (As D-money #1 has said, sufficient arrogance is the number one asset of any entrepreneur.) And like that, Ashley Ambirge Copywriting was born. That thing about grass growing underneath feet? Not mine, baby.

Skip back to the scene at Whole Foods.  After (stupidly) asking him what his budget was, he responded, and it was disappointingly much lower than I had hoped, or even imagined.  My heart sank.  I said yes anyway.

Then, I walked away feeling deflated.
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Should I have negotiated with him?  Should I have rejected his offer?  Should I have simply asked for more?  Maybe this is how beginner copywriters start out?  Should I should just suck it up?!  How the hell am I going to pay my $1,010 a month rent?  Ohshitohshitohshit.


Of course, in the end I ended up making it all work.  With the help of my good friends Pinot, Syrah & a little song called LIVIN’ ON A PRAYER.  But that’s another story.

The real story I want to tell happens now.

Fast forward a lot a lot a lot from Whole Foods to first-signs-of-aging-wrinkles, otherwise known as present day.

I was recently approached by a woman.  Again, sorry to disappoint–also not a street corner scenario.

The woman is a pretty big deal.  She has a reality TV show in production.  She runs her own company.  And she’s got more than one house in the Hollywood Hills.  ‘Nuff said.

She wanted me to be her ghostblogger.  She thought that I was the one who could accurately capture her voice and tone, and asked me to submit a proposal.

So I did.  Because, I do that sometimes and I thought, well this could be fun.

However, after some back and forth, I received this email:

“Your fee is more than double what the other writer has proposed.  What’s your justification?”

I responded:

“My prices are the way they are because I’m damn good–why else?”

A far cry from my Whole Foods days, indeed.  But as I thought about it more in depth, there’s a lot more to it than the answer I gave her.  And I want to share it here.

The real reason is this:

The fee I proposed was the number that would make me genuinely happy.  Anything less than that, and I’d resent doing the work, and my whole heart + creative fire wouldn’t be in it. And if I’m going to dedicate a large chunk of my time to someone else’s project, taking on a significant opportunity cost, I need it to feel good.

If you’ve been reading the site for any length of time, or if you got ahold of my eBook, you know that I’m a blaring, blazing, rip-roaring advocate of work that feels good.  It isn’t about doing less work; it’s about doing better work.  More meaningful work.  More soul-driven, laughter-fueled, gut-instinct-powered work that feels good to do every day.  I won’t launch into a this is your one and only precious life spiel, but…what if it were?  Because it is.

I acknowledge that not everyone’s in that place right now where they can hold out for only the best & brightest opportunities that make your insides do a little jig and a perhaps a touch of tango–sometimes, you’ve got to take what you can.  I get that.  I’ve been there many-a-tearfilled time.

But, I think that there’s a greater message at hand.

It’s not about respecting your time.

It’s about straight up, full-blown honoring it.

When it comes to setting fees, we usually try to assess what fee we think we deserve.
But as D-money #2 points out, there’s a difference between deserving (which implies having to work and work and work to finally let yourself feel okay with having something) versus being worthy (which you just ARE, because you’re a vibrant, creative, glowing, intelligent human being that has indefinite value + wisdom + insight to contribute.)

You’re worthy of work that makes you feel good.

You’re worthy of time spent that makes you feel good.

You’re worthy of choices that make you feel good.

You’re worthy of a life that makes you feel good.

And you’re sure as hell worthy of a fee that makes you feel good, too.

If you’re worried that other people won’t see it that way, and you’ll go broke (we’re all afraid of that, darlin’), then work at getting better at conveying your true value. You don’t always have to learn more or become more; sometimes, it’s just about getting clear on what you’re already really, really good at, and letting that take center stage.  Own it. Own that and nothing else.  Sooner than later, you’ll become the go-to person for that, and let me tell you what:  When you become a go-to person, you can set whatever fee you want.

Regardless of who you are, you’re worth it.  And sometimes, it just takes one person to remind you.

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To this end, I’d like to announce some changes I’m making to my own business model:

  • I’ve been continually adding to You Don’t Need a Job, You Need Guts (my eBook that teaches beginners how to leverage the internet to create a career out of their passions + interests), and I’ve decided to raise the price.  Sunday at 12 midnight, the price will increase from $24 to $40.  Why?  Because it’s worth it. If it’s something you’ve been considering picking up, you might want to snag a copy now.-
  • Right now I do consulting with  bloggers who want to use their blog as a platform for a business, or with small to mid-sized businesses who need to up the ante with their online presence + digital marketing strategy. Currently, my fee is $200 for approximately a 2 hour Skype session, where we jam, and then that’s followed by a week of email support. However, as I continue to take on more and more clients, it’s becoming more & more apparent that this model is just so painfully unscaleable.  I’m finding myself struggling to keep up with everyone, and I don’t want to ever half-ass ANYTHING.  I downright refuse.  I want to SHINE and I want to help THEM SHINE to the best of my capabilities.  So, I’ve made a change.  I will now be offering a straight up 2 hour Skype consult for $150, without the additional week of support.  I’ll still keep the option to do the 2 hour Skype consult + week of support for $200, but I’ll be limiting those to 2 people per week. This way, I can stay sane, and you can receive the attention you deserve.  Si? Oh, and you also get a free copy of my book.
Now whatdya say?  Margaritas for everyone?

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If you liked that jazz. . .check out some of these:

  • Grace

    Found your site by mistake, am the same age as you and have just started a company with a friend and clearly understand what you mean. My business partner and I, we are both good at what we do. We quit our jobs in January and with the amount of competition in Johannesburg (am from South Africa by the way) and the fact that a lot of people in the same industry as us which is graphic design, PR and eventing are out of work – we find our prices being beaten by those of freelanceers looking to make a quick buck by accepting offers that pay way beyond the industry rates. When we go into the bigger companies with our quote it’s considered too high so we lose out. Sometimes we accept the small jobs and I absolutely hate doing work for a fee am not happy with. I know we can’t be extremely selective because of where we are right now but I think after a few tips from your blog, I would rather drink wine at home and finish off my MBA than workign with clients who pay me peanuts and expect way much more than they paid for. Your blog rocks and tomorrow, I am going out there and taking the clients I like (wink). I feel so inspired reading your articles, understand it will be tough but am ready to be defiant and stop living by stupid rules I didn’t create.

    • Anonymous

      Right on, sistafriend! Especially the part about drinking wine at home and finishing the MBA. :)  

      Have you tried to specialize in any particular industry yet, or perhaps brand yourself according to a particular style? Have found that this does wonders for client acquisition – becoming known for something. Then, you can charge all you want because people won’t want the general guy, they’ll want the EXPERT.

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  • http://www.whatsleftout.com Austin L. Church

    Ashley, your reminiscing on beginning your business and insights into making a living doing what you love resonate. I got laid off from my marketing job and found myself with less than $500 to my name, $6000 worth of debt from graduate school, and insecurity attached to my lack of experience. Within ten months, I had paid off all that debt and made more money than I would have if I’d stayed in that other job. And I really, really enjoyed the work I was doing. Ha! I certainly made mistakes along the way, wasting time on clients who liked my ideas but weren’t willing to compensate me fairly. Beware talk about “long-term partnerships” or “I want to invest in you.” Those are two ways of saying that they want your work cheap or free. Respect for my work starts with me, and no matter how desperate I am for a paycheck, I always have Walk Away Power. This keeps me from lowballing myself and getting cornered into relationships and work that I resent. Lovely post. Thanks for sharing.

  • http://www.whatsleftout.com Austin L. Church

    Ashley, your reminiscing on beginning your business and insights into making a living doing what you love resonate. I got laid off from my marketing job and found myself with less than $500 to my name, $6000 worth of debt from graduate school, and insecurity attached to my lack of experience. Within ten months, I had paid off all that debt and made more money than I would have if I’d stayed in that other job. And I really, really enjoyed the work I was doing. Ha! I certainly made mistakes along the way, wasting time on clients who liked my ideas but weren’t willing to compensate me fairly. Beware talk about “long-term partnerships” or “I want to invest in you.” Those are two ways of saying that they want your work cheap or free. Respect for my work starts with me, and no matter how desperate I am for a paycheck, I always have Walk Away Power. This keeps me from lowballing myself and getting cornered into relationships and work that I resent. Lovely post. Thanks for sharing.

  • http://www.madartgallery.net Megan Duncanson

    Ashley – I’m TOTALLY in love with your blog!!  You are the most down-to-earth, Straight Talking gal on the internet!!  I’m beyond inspired to take my art business to the next level because of you, thank you from the bottom of my heart for being the BIG Kick in the A** I needed!  Now I’m going to go and write a blog post about my art and my business and where, and how, I’m taking it to the next level, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Big, giant, obnoxious, loud, make-people-stare THANK YOU from my end!

      • http://www.madartgallery.net Megan Duncanson

        Just posted my blog post after being deeply inspired by you Ashley, thank you!!  http://www.duncansonart.com

  • http://www.GenuineThriving.com/ Jeremiah Stanghini

    I’ve learned that until I value my time for what it’s worth, I can’t possibly expect a potential client to.

    With Love and Gratitude,

    Jeremiah

    • Anonymous

      This theme keeps coming up, and I’m so glad that it has.  We ARE worth it.  Thanks so much for dropping by, Jeremiah!

  • http://castlesintheair.org Nina Yau

    Way to not settle, Ash. Woman, how I adore you. :) Rock on!

    • Anonymous

      Hey!  How’s Taiwan?!?!

  • http://www.theregularamerican.com T.R.

    This is the absolute BEST blog (I mean the blog itself) I’ve ever read. I’m so happy I found you. You are a fantastic writer. I put a link to this site on my blog (get ready for your server to crash). I’m so thrilled to be a subscriber; I’ve been getting caught up on your posts all day! Awesome, awesome, awesome! Time for me to get paid what I’m worth.

    • Anonymous

      Well if that’s not a compliment and a half, I don’t know what is!  Hi, T.R.!  *big wave* Let’s make some amazing shit happen in 2011, yeah?

  • Karlee

    sometime I don’t want to share you, but sometime I feel like I should and so I did just with my mother, sister and husband. It’s like your articles amuses me and I feel you’re my piece of sanity.

    • Anonymous

      “I feel you’re my piece of sanity.”  You know – this might be a better description for what it is that I do, than anything I’ve ever come up with.  I really, really dig.

  • Leon Terra

    Ashley, did I ever tell you you’re amazing! Of course I did, once… I think it was a year ago. Well, let’s make it two now. And you are definitely worthy of your success and these wonderfully colorful comments. Last year I raised my fee for my music and engineering projects. It’s amazing how many “rappers” and “r&b” artists-in-development (meaning broke–or cheap) think making non-sucking music is an easy thing to do. When I agree to produce something for someone it’s because i’m challenging myself, it takes all my creative energy, and I use my best ideas in the mix. It essence, they take a huge part of me when I’m done, and then I turn into a sobbing proud parent when my idea-child leaves me after being all growns up. So hell yea I raised prices, and hell yea I cut back on how many I take in because it’s MY energy, My time, My shit! People come to me because I make good shit. Done. Luv ya Ash.

    • Anonymous

      YES!  I didn’t know you were a producer!  But–wow–I’m in awe of YOU, friend.  This is something I’d love to hear more about.  The process sounds fascinating.  And by the way – I am ALWAYS (always) searching for the hottest new hip hop tracks – it’s the only thing that gives me motivation to exercise…and it pumps me up.  You keep me in mind the next time you need to hit someone with some ideas.  :)

  • http://blog.sailorscorpio.com Meredith

    Thanks for coming clean about your age — it’s the kick in the ass I need right now. In 2006, I was 22 as well. I was finishing up a degree, full of energy and hope for the future. In the four years following college graduation, I’ve been filled mostly with disenchantment about the “real” world. I see now that hiding behind the “maybe it’s just people discriminating against me because I’m so young and already have 3 kids” was just a pitiful excuse. If we’re the same age and you’re showing me how to be as successful as you are, then damn it all I need to take heed and follow suit. Between you and Gwen Bell, I feel like I can be doing so much better at this stage of my life. Thank you. I need this right now. I need to put in my book order like 5 weeks ago.

    • Anonymous

      “Full of energy and hope for the future.”  Me, too.  I remember thinking that I was going to take the world by storm and become the next hottest CEO of…EVERYTHING.  lol.

      I am a proud 26–going on 27 in June–and it is striking how fast the time flies.  It’s motivating for me, because I cower at the thought of turning 30 without having done anything that I feel was meaningful and important to me.  That’s why I started TMFproject in the first place.

      Thanks for dropping by, Meredith, and welcome.  You’re not alone, girl.

  • http://www.amandafarough.com/ Amanda F.

    You’re a fucking rock star and I heart the hell outta you.

    • Anonymous

      Me more.  And everytime I see your damn avatar I want to go out and chop my hair again.  But–dammit–I did that in ’09 and now it’s finally growing back.  GAH!

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, everyone, for all of your killer comments and additions to the conversation!  I have to hop over to Argentina first thing in the morning, and I’m unsure of what kind of internet connection I’ll have, but keep rocking the convo and I’ll be back Monday!  Cheers!

  • http://tuckerbradford.com/ Tucker

    I SO hear you. I took a client once who I wasn’t thrilled about. When he asked me what I charged I took the highest amount I could imagine him saying yes to and added 50%. He agreed to my rate and I worked with him for a while before becoming so fed up that I fired him. What it taught me though was that people will value me based on (and sometimes equal to) what I value myself at. It also taught me that no amount of money can make a soul sucking job fun. Live and learn!

    • Anonymous

      Live and learn, indeed!  It’s all a process.  ALL A PROCESS.  Nice example – thanks for taking the time to share!

  • http://thewordpresschick.com/ Kim Doyal The WordPress Chick

    I just found your site last week- I friggin love it!!!
    This post is FABULOUS!
    It always seems that the jobs that I charge too little for always end up being the biggest headache too. When you value your time and talents you’ll end up with more clients that are willing to pay for it and appreciate it as well.
    LOVE your writing!

    • Anonymous

      I love that there’s a WordPress chick in the house!  Who needs this girl’s services?!  (I know some of you do!)

  • http://twitter.com/lvstrickland Leslie Strickland

    PS A few days ago your site said “Sponsored by your mom” and my coworkers and I enjoyed the hell out of it.  “Your mom” jokes are huge in our little room for some reason.  Helps us get through the day, I guess!

    • Anonymous

      Yes!  I keep playing with it.  I’m a sucker for mom jokes as well.  ;)

  • http://twitter.com/lvstrickland Leslie Strickland

    Just what I needed in the moment before I take on another freelance gig.  No wonder I hated the last – I didn’t ask for nearly enough to make it worth my time (which unfortunately made the work slower and thus even less profitable), especially considering it is work outside of my actual job.

    • Anonymous

      Resent, right?  It’s an evil, evil bitch.

  • http://twitter.com/ChelsTalksSmack Chelsea Talks Smack

    This is awesome- as a writer, musician, actress, CREATIVE I’m constantly faced with accepting too little, SIMPLY BECAUSE I “NEED WORK” rather than holding out for the better thing, the one that honors my talents and my value- this is an awesome, awesome, reminder. You’re the bomb baby.

    • Anonymous

      We’ve all been there.  Most of us still are.  But just keep reminding yourself…..because you, of all people, have some of the most raw talent I’ve ever freaking seen.

  • Fabeku Fatunmise

    My response? Word.

    It’s pure 100% grade A awesome when somebody knows what their work is worth and they can say it without any hesitation.

    Nobody wins when we can’t bring 100% to the table. For whatever reason. And if it’s something as easy to fix as tweaking your rates? Rock on and show up with your awesome cranked to 11.

    • Anonymous

      WORD!

  • Aleta Fullenwider

    I had been on the fence about purchasing the book – I admit it. But I’m a sucker for a strong call to action. Nicely played.

    • Anonymous

      Right?  Calls to action really *do* work.  :)

  • http://www.theartofaudacity.com Lachlan Cotter

    My advice is to take advantage of this generous offer before Ash realizes how drastically she’s still undervaluing herself. She delivers the goods. Seriously people, it would be a bargain at twice the price.

    • Anonymous

      I heart you and this comment.  I can’t WAIT to watch YOU go places, sir.

  • http://www.tvlai.com Aretha Gaskin

    Hey Ashley, this is absolutely fabulous!  I was just turned on to your work (by a very wise woman) and I have to say, I’m so glad because you speak my language sistah!  To your point, this year I’m having a huge shift in my practice and I’m beginning to do work that makes my heart sing and I’m sooooo excited.  I’ve always “felt” like I was worth it but actually saying/getting it was something totally different.  Rock on!

    Aretha A. Gaskin
    The Virtual Legal Assistant
    http://www.tvlai.com

    • Anonymous

      There’s a wise woman saying good things about me?!?!?!?!  And I’m the last to know!?!?!!?  :) You’re right – sometimes uttering those words can be tough, because the reaction is scary.  But sometimes you’ve just got to close your eyes and force yourself to utter them.  Your bank account will reward you.

  • Mkaiza

    Thank You so much this is WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I needed to read this too!

    • Anonymous

      XOXO

  • Kathroberts

    Hey Ash…loving the posts and I’m all for purpose, passion and red wine actually, which , of course, gets far better when we honor our talents and price our offering correctly in the first place. I ‘m loving the entrepreneurial lifestyle, can’t begin to understand why I did the corporate bollocks for so long but hey that’s life. I’m living in the moment, facing the fears and kicking arse as I guess you’d say.
    I don’t want you to think I’m being spammy here by leaving a link to my blog but hell I want share my passions freely with you all in personal development !

    • Anonymous

      Not at all.  Big his to you and your blog!  XO Value is always welcome here.

  • UrbanTravelGirl

    Ash, you ALWAYS manage to write JUST what I need to hear when I need to hear it. I’ve gotta submit a proposal early next week and this was just the reminder I needed to get what I deserve. After all, you get no brownie points for asking for LESS!
    Maureen/UrbanTravelGirl

    • Anonymous

      Yes!  Communicate that value all the way, baby.  Make a fucking video if you have to.  Get the job done.  And you’ll get the job.

  • http://www.wicked-whimsy.com Michelle

    AWESOME POST! I might print this out and hang it up over my desk. I thought the price of YDNAJYNG (yeah, I’m still too lazy to type that out ;) ) was too low before – $40 is just perfect (especially if you’ve been adding to it).

    Also, I’ve noticed that the vast majority of people who get awfully snide about money not equalling happiness have never had to talk someone out of turning off their electricity.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you, Michelle! 

      And this is a whole post in itself.  A post that someone should be writing for the Fear, Exposed series.  Nudge, nudge?

      • http://www.wicked-whimsy.com Michelle

        Ooh, you know, I think that’s a good idea. I’ll put that on the to-do list & shoot you an email about it. :)

  • http://www.jobjenny.com/ JobJenny

    The way in which you wrote this speaks for itself. YOU are a writer. Not a ghostwriter, a WRITER. And people shall pay you accordingly.

    Let Hollywood Hills hired Mr. Half-Priced. You’ve got places to go, my friend. Big places to go.

    Period. Exclamation mark.

    • Anonymous

      I do have places to go.  Namely, Ecuador, Colombia, Panama and Costa Rica.  ;) You’re meeting me there, right?

      • http://www.jobjenny.com Jenny Foss

        Of course. Oregon – > Cali -> Arizona -> Mexico -> Guatamala -> Honduras -> Nicaragua – > Costa Rica. I’m there! (go Simon!)

  • cynthia gunsinger

    kabam. i want to work with people who value their time and their craft, not those who eek out a living doing what they think they should do and getting paid what they think they can. thanks for teaching rockstar-ness.

    • Anonymous

      Nice to hear it from the other side of the equation!  Would love to hear more on this.

  • http://experiencingrevolution.com Tessa Zeng

    I’ve always thought you were undercharging with your ebook :) not that I’m complaining for paying too little, haha, but it’s WORTH so much more.

    Thanks for the inspiration! I’m tired of livin on a prayer, too. This mind isn’t usually super biz-oriented but I found myself scribbling down notes on revenue streams just this morning. Woo!

    • Anonymous

      Thank you, Tessa, for that lovely validation.  It’s much appreciated!  And yes–notes are a MUST.  ;)

  • http://randipierce.com Randi Pierce

    Abso-friggin-lutely : )

    • Anonymous

      XO!

  • Kaity

    We discussed pricing with a social concepts class the other day – what goes into pricing an art piece? You can NEVER sell down once collectors’ see a piece. Because you are devaluing THEIR collection, and hence your future sales to them will not be as valuable.

    Ash, you are amazing, and always give me good things to think about. I had a great convo yesterday morning while cuddling on my couch with a cute guy … contents of which I would love to go over with you. Although it has absolutely nothing to do with blogs and business – I think it would be fun to discuss the value of beliefs, and how God became devalued by being sold irresponsibly by humans. :P The Big Guy should hire you to do his marketing and promotions.

    D-Money #2 is awesome, and this just became my newest thing to pin up on my wall and memorize…

    “You deserve
    : eye contact
    : smiles in the morning
    : food made with pure intention
    : clean drinking water, fresh air
    : Hello, Please, Thank you.
    : time to think about it
    : a chance to show them what you’re made of
    : a second chance
    : an education
    : health care, including dental
    : multiple orgasms
    : weekends and the summer off
    : 8 hours of sleep
    : play before work
    : to change your mind
    : to say no
    : to say yes
    : to have your deepest needs met
    : to be seen
    : to be loved for what is seen.

    You deserve all this just because you showed up.
    Yep, you’re that monumental. ”

    Hell yes, I’m that monumental.

    • Anonymous

      D #2 is the shit.

      I love god conversations.

      I love you.

      The end?

  • http://www.kararane.com kara rane

    Hi Ash-
    great topic & find out your real prices as an artist and barter with another professional.
    This will really open your eyes to their value scale as opposed to yours.
    money is so subjective, but trade really levels this field, and many professionals in other fields find their “price” in the same way an artist would.

    • Anonymous

      You just said the magic words: MONEY IS SUBJECTIVE.  So is value.  Make them align.

  • http://www.stopdoingdumbthingstocustomers.com/blog dougshaw

    This post is from the tippety top of the toppermost drawer. Well done for reminding us about value, purpose, and most importantly – feeling good about stuff. Cheers – keep it up!

    Doug

    • Anonymous

      Wait, there’s a dresser involved?!?!  ;)

  • Anonymous

    I can only dream about writing as well as you, Ash! But what you’re saying is so true. Time is valuable, so you should be happy with how you spend and what people give you in return.

    • Anonymous

      Oh, YOU.  *blush*

  • Ashley Inzer

    I love you.

    The end.

    • Anonymous

      I love you, too!  Mostly because your name is also Ashley.  Bonus!

  • Doniree

    NEEDED to read this right now. I’m finally in a place with my own business where I *can* set my price, and so far – no one’s balked! Until yesterday. When a company said “That seems like a bit much to do ongoing social media work,” and I wanted to spell out “Hi. ‘Ongoing social media work is a 24/7 assignment, and I’m only billing you for a fraction of that.  Also, I know what I’m doing.”  But I didn’t.  She said she’d get back to me, and I said, “I look forward to hearing from you,” and there we are.  And I’ve been wrestling with “was it really too much?” but then I did my research and realized a couple of things: 1) I AM worth that. I know what I’m doing, I do it WELL, and like you said – for my heart and soul to go into something, it has to feel good.  I know what rate makes me FEEL good because it means my bills get paid and then some.  2) Research shows that my rates are actually on the low end.  So… I want to work with people who value my work the way I value my work.

    Right?  AMEN?  Amen. 

    LOVED this post.  Thank you for the reminder that I AM worth this because I’m also “damn good” :)

    • Anonymous

      Hell yeah!  I’d suggest getting back in touch with her and being honest.  Tell her that you understand her hesitation (getting her off the defense) and that you’d like to be more specific as to why your rates are what they are.  Then give her the boom-boom-pow as to how wonderful and kick ass you are.  Communicate that value, baby!  To her, all social media strategists are the same.  You know better.  Now go show her.

  • http://www.locationless.com Nick Laborde

    I’ve been in those pricing standoffs before, so I know that exact feeling. 

    If you don’t value your own time then why the hell would you expect anyone else too.

    • Anonymous

      There IS some psychology to it, indeed.

  • http://blog.trushots.com/ Trudy

    This post kicks ass. All creatives should read it. I just finished listening to something else on pricing (specifically to photographers) but you are preaching the word. I think it’s funny I came across your tweet right after that podcast, like double confirmation of adjustments I and other creatives I know need to make.

    Thanks for this post. Appreciated.

    • Anonymous

      The world aligns?  :)

  • http://twitter.com/Ayngelina Ayngelina

    Completely agree that low price often equals low value, people who are willing to invest will pay more for good stuff.

    • Anonymous

      XOXOXO

  • Anonymous

    Ash,

    It’s funny because the first time I put up my consulting services one of the listeners to my podcast emailed me and said “I’m not emailing you to hire you, but to tell you’re rates are WAY TOO LOW.” Talk about a wakeup call. I’m in the process of developing the bootcamp idea that I had talked to you about. With the changes that happened at my day job in the last few weeks, it’s lit a fire under my ass to really push the limits so that my fate is no longer in somebody else’s hands. Anyways, great stuff as always and inspiring as always. Hopefully our paths will cross soon and pure genius that wast meant to be our meeting will occur.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, bootcamp!  I’m really pumped for you and this.  Again, let me know how I can help.

  • http://www.technomadia.com Cherie @Technomadia

    Totally agreed on all of this!  I’ve had a hard time convincing my father (and business partner) of this for the past decade or so.  He grew up in a different mentality of just being thankful for having work to bill.  But I’ve slowly gotten him to come around that our time is our most valuable asset, and it doesn’t come cheaply.  Our contracts are now all priced much closer to where they should be.

    If I’m working on my own projects and passions, sure – I’m willing to put in 90 hour work weeks with no promise of a payout.  But if I’m putting my time and energy into someone else’s projects – it better be worth it.  My rates scale inversely to how much the project inspires me.

    Sure, money may not buy happiness – but lack of it sure does bring about unhappiness.

    • Anonymous

      SUCH a fantastic comment, Cherie!  Good to see your smiling face!

      You’re right – I work A LOT more now than I ever did before, but it’s because I’m working on my own projects that fuel & inspire me…and I almost don’t *want* to stop.  But as you said, if I’ve got to cut time out of that to potentially work with someone else, it’s got to be worth it for all parties involved. 

      “My rates scale inversely to how much the project inspires me.”  HA.  This needs to be quoted somewhere.

  • http://www.jungleoflife.com/ Lance

    Shiny happy one,
    …sign me up for one of those margaritas…

    (and – well said – you are worth it, I am worth it, we are all worth it…)

    • Anonymous

      I’ve been on a margarita kick lately, but today is day 3 of primal eating (read: get my ass into shape!) so I’m going to have to either watch everyone else, or sneak them when I’ve been really, really good.  ;) Until then, perhaps some vino.

      • http://twitter.com/DocRona Rona Thau

        SOME paleo people say that tequila is paleo with a squish of fruit (no refined sugar) MAYBE a dab of honey or agave and voila…paleo marg. (not that i’m encouraging this). cheers & lotsa love…

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  • Mike Key

    Raise your prices on Skype too! You’re worth it. Heck for 125$ I’ll skype you every week.

    I have a strong belief that when it hurts more via the wallet people will get more out of it and they’ll make it work.

    Then again I raised all my rates and boldly piss people off regularly.

    • Anonymous

      Best comment ever.  Ha.  That’s some rad avatar you’ve got going on here, Mike – where ARE you?!  How have you been?

      • Mike Key

        Great, almost got sucked up by life. Spent better half of last year figuring out what does and doesn’t work. Getting refocused now! I just love the look and feel of your blog btw! I love it when a authors personality not only comes through their content but the design as well. Major plus!

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